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      Peter Schiff discusses the recent FOMC announcement on interest rates remaining unchanged and critiques the Fed’s dovish stance amid rising inflation. Schiff highlights the Fed’s plan to slow quantitative tightening, rising gold prices as a warning of loose monetary policy, and calls for higher interest rates. He criticizes the Fed’s handling of inflation expectations and the economic composition of job growth. Schiff also promotes gold and silver investments as protection against inflation. Follow Peter Schiff on X.

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      show well earlier today the fomc the Federal Open Market Committee announced
      Federal Reserve’s Interest Rate Announcement
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      that it was leaving interest rates unchanged very uh highly anticipated
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      announcement so the FED funds rate is now four and a quarter to 4 and a half
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      percent the uh expectation remains for two additional rate Cuts between now and
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      the end of the year so I think the markets are looking for a rate cut in June and then maybe another one in
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      December and then a couple of more rate Cuts uh the year after
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      that um I think the announcement though was on the do side in fact probably more
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      dovish than even Wall Street uh
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      comprehends one of the things that they they did announce in addition to the
      Discussion on Quantitative Tightening
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      fact that they were leaving rates unchanged was that they were going to slow down the pace of their balance
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      sheet runoff otherwise known as quantitative tightening and so instead of allowing 25
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      billion of uh treasuries to run off meaning that when a treasury matures
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      they don’t roll it over and buy another treasury they just kind of let it mature and uh and so the balance sheet
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      declines you know naturally instead of allowing 25 billion to run off per month
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      they are only going to allow five billion which means they’ll be rolling
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      over more of that maturing debt into into new debt and and so that basically
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      uh you know amounts to an ease uh because they are reducing the amount of
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      liquidity they are removing through that quantitative tightening program now they’re not slowing down the pace of
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      mortgage back Securities which they’ll continue to run off and you know just to skip ahead a little bit to the podcast
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      uh during the Q&A he they he was asked a question about about that about the um
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      the mortgage back Securities and he indicated that the FED really wanted to get those off their balance sheet and so
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      they might continue to allow that runoff but they may decide to do it in a way
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      that is neutral for the balance sheet and so what that implies is that they may start buying treasuries again in
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      order to continue to allow the mortgage back Securities to run down without it
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      having a an effect on the balance sheet so if they uh allowed 20 billion of
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      mortgage back to run off they would go into the market and buy an additional 20
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      billion of treasuries in order to offset that so it wouldn’t uh shrink the balance sheet of course the FED should
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      continue to shrink the balance sheet the balance sheet is much too large uh the fact that the the FED is uh dramatically
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      slowing uh the rate of reduction I think it’s just another step in the direction
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      of a return to all you know allout quantitative easing I think that’s coming but the reason I I I think that
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      this is a very doish move by the FED uh has to do with the way in which
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      um pal really dismissed uh the the pickup in inflation
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      as if it’s really no big deal or even denying that it exists and and and
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      showing that the FED is still focused on these rate cuts when in reality they should be hiking rates as I’ve said on
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      this podcast on numerous occasions the FED never actually got
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      monetary policy into restrictive territory uh they’ve been too loose the
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      entire time and rather than discussing um interest rate uh cut
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      they should be hiking raid so the fact that cuts are even on the table uh is is very dobish and is a mistake you know
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      one of the uh facts that didn’t come up once during uh the Q&A and I’m going to
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      get into a lot of the that but one question that nobody asked which should
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      have been uh you know asked by by everybody was the price of gold no
      Gold Prices and Market Signals
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      nobody said to Pal hey what do you think about $33,000 gold because on Monday
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      gold closed above 3,000 for the first time ever it closed above 3,000 again on
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      Tuesday and again today it hit another record high it closed at
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      3,048 and it’s up again the evening another $5 so as I’m recording this
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      podcast live on Wednesday evening here in New York or I’m not in New York but New York time gold is trading in the
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      spot Market at $3,533 of
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      $5 nobody brought this up because gold
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      is flashing a warning that the FED is too loose you know in the
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      Q&A one of the reporters brought up Allan Greenspan’s old definition of
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      price stability where Greenspan said well price stability is where uh
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      businesses and and workers don’t even bother to calculate price
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      changes into their plans because prices are going up so slowly that nobody
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      really cares right so it’s like indifferent in decision making and he asked jome pal if he would you know
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      ascribe to that definition and if he believes that we have price stability and he did say yes I like that
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      definition uh but he really didn’t answer as to whether or not he thought we had price stability kind of dodg that
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      but the point I’m making in bringing it up is that Allan Greenspan also talked
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      about the importance of gold in setting monetary policy Allan Greenspan said
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      that even though we’re not officially on a gold standard he said that he used the
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      gold price as a reference as a signal to all let him know whether
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      monetary policy was too tight or too easy what green span said was that if gold gets up to $400 an
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      ounce that means that he’s too loose if it goes below 300 that means he’s too
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      tight so obviously at the time that Greenspan made the statement gold was probably around $350 an ounce and he
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      kind of looked at if it was going above 400 I’m too loose maybe we got a tighten
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      policy but if the price of gold drops below 300 maybe we’re too tight right we got to ease up well course Gold’s 3,000
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      now right so that shows you how much things have changed you know I looked again at the chart going back to the
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      beginning of this Century the S&P is actually down 60% if you price it in
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      Gold I mean that is enormous bare market and it really shows you that the entirety of the gain in the stock market
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      is due to uh inflation it’s due due to uh the destruction of the value of money
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      not a real increase in the value of the companies uh that are represented by the S&P 500 but that we are uh you know
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      measuring their value in rapidly depreciated currency and it’s not just the dollar relative to the Euro or the
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      Yen or the pound because all those currencies have have gone down uh and so
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      it’s a global inflation uh it’s not just an inflation in in the United States but
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      green B acknowledged that in that gold was an important Market signal and he
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      even said we’re not officially on a gold standard but it’s kind of like we are because I’m using gold right so if gold
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      goes up I’m going to tighten right and so it’s kind of like a gold standard but it’s not a gold standard well what about
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      now what is $3,000 gold saying about fed monetary
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      policy well apparently nobody cares nobody even wants to ask these questions not one reporter in that room there was
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      a reporter who asked pal about the stock market and it’s Decline and if the
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      decline in the stock market concerned him at all but nobody asked him about
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      the rise in the gold market and if that was concerning You’ think you would ask
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      the the chairman of the Federal Reserve hey the price of gold keeps going up and now it’s at an all-time record high it
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      just blew through 3,000 are you worried about that chair pal are you worried
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      that the gold market is saying something that maybe you’ve got your policy wrong
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      the fact that Central Bankers all around the world are dumping the currency that
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      you print right Federal Reserve notes right that they’re Federal Reserve notes they’re notes of the Federal Reserve
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      that’s what the dollars are and all these other Central Bankers are dumping the notes of the Federal Reserve to buy
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      gold they are foregoing 4% four and a half% interest
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      on us treasuries in order to put gold in a vault and earn no interest are you
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      concerned about that right are you concerned that the markets are repudiating your policies that the
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      markets are telling you that interest rates are too low and that inflation is going to be too high nobody is even
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      asking pal you know his opinion on that I I mean I would love to hear his answer although I’m sure you know he’d find a
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      way of of weaseling out of it like he does for any question that he you know either can’t answer or is
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      uncomfortable answering but that is the reality that that is the real proof that
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      the FED is wrong because you have a market that is uh saying that the FED is
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      too loose and that these rate cuts are a mistake whenever they come the FED
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      should be hiking interest rates not deciding when to cut
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      and again gold is the canary in the monetary coal mine right the canary
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      obviously is dropping dead right gold is shooting up it is a warning but it’s
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      falling on the deaf years of fomc that doesn’t even know what they’re hearing
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      or they’re just that they can’t hear it at all they’re oblivious they’re toned deaf because they don’t even understand
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      uh inflation or monetary policy and again all pal looks at when he when when
      Inflation Concerns and Monetary Policy
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      he gets all these questions about inflation uh he always responds that you
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      know he wants to look at the prices and determine you know why the prices are rising you know is it going to be
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      transitory it’s hard to believe they’re even using the word transitory again but you know is it gonna stick or you know
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      he he he there he’s all focused on prices but prices going up are a result
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      of inflation you can’t just focus on prices it’s again it’s like driving in
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      the rear view looking in the rearview mirror you’re going to get into an accident it’s the money supply expanding
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      which is continuing and credit right inflation is not just the expansion of
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      the money supply it’s an expansion of credit because credit can be used as
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      money you can buy stuff with credit even if you don’t have any money right and so the more credit there is in the economy
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      the more upward pressure there is on prices so you have to look at the money supply and the credit Supply to know
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      what’s going to happen to prices in the future if you’re just looking at prices and you’re ignoring all that you’re not
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      going to fight inflation and in fact if you’re saying I’m going to wait until I see a sustained increase in prices
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      before I do something about inflation well then you’re too late you have to be preemptive you have to understand how
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      the monetary Aggregates are ultimately going to impact prices there is a lag
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      that’s why they say don’t let the inflation Genie out of the bottle by definition if you do what pal says he
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      wants to do wait until you see that prices are really going up right looking
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      through uh the impact of tariffs because a lot of discussion was well the tariffs
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      and you know how do you know if the price increases are a one-off event by the tariffs or if it’s something more uh
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      and you know a lot of times too when pal talked about that inflation was a bit higher he always attributed it to the
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      tariffs or the fear of the tariffs uh you know when prices were going up even before we had the tariffs H but of
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      course he’s trying to you know pre- blame any inflation on the tariffs I mean I know this was going to happen
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      right anything that happens he’s going to say well I guess it was the tariffs right that’s how the FED is going to
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      deflect the blame from its own monetary policies and put them on onto the tariffs that’s another reason why Trump
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      shouldn’t have done it because it gives uh the FED an excuse uh and it lets them them off the hook because it it’s very
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      easy to blame the inflation on tariffs but if pal does what he says you know
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      just really Waits until he can figure out whether the price increases are
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      transitory or whether it’s more permanent by the time he figures that out it’s much too late to do anything
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      about it right because you know the prices are really going so his whole
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      methodology of waiting for inflation to become a bigger problem before he tries to solve it means that you know he can’t
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      solve it because because of the lags and of course it doesn’t even matter anyway inflation is already going to be much
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      higher based on the mistakes that have already been made you know the credit supply has been consistently growing
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      throughout the entirety of the rate hike and then of course the FED stopped hiking money supply is growing now they
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      are they are you know shrinking the balance sheet uh less which is also going to end up being
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      inflationary and now the dollar is weakening and one of the main reasons
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      that the CPI retraced was the strength of the dollar
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      it was the dollar moving up that brought commodity prices down well commodity
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      prices are now rising and they’re going to rise even faster now that the dollar is falling uh so the temporary effects
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      of lower inflation are are going to be gone that’s what was transitory it was
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      the dip in inflation that was transitory that was a transitory decline in
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      inflation and now inflation is going to resume its acceleration and it’s going
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      to be particularly uh fast because the FED is not doing anything to put on the brakes and in fact the FED is still
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      planning on cutting rates and again that was also why I thought and even the markets would
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      probably agree that this was dovish in that F had pal had to acknowledge that
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      inflation was going to be higher in fact they increased their forecast for
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      inflation this year from 2.5 to 2.8 and I think they’re looking at the pce or
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      the core PC they’re not looking at the CPI they’re they’re they’re using the the index that’s the lowest but even
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      then they acknowledged that infl is going to be higher this year than they thought but despite the fact that they
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      had to up their inflation forecast they still telegraphed two rate Cuts this
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      year Well if inflation is moving up and it’s higher than you thought it was going to be and it’s Mo moving farther
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      away from uh 2% then why are you telegraphing cuts at all why are there
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      any cuts on the table why doesn’t defense say no we’re not cutting rates at all uh until we see inflation coming
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      down they’re still uh indicating that they’re going to cut rates even though inflation is going up and one of the
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      reasons is at the same time in this forecast they regroup they reduced their
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      estimates for GDP growth uh this year now they’re at 1.7 of course they’re ignoring the fact that Atlanta fed is
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      already negative2 point something for q1 so nobody even brought that up uh but
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      they reduced their growth forecast to just 1.7% so they’re reducing their growth
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      and their increase in the inflation what pal said later on which is not true is
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      he said well these things cancel each other out higher inflation and lower growth cancel each other out no they
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      don’t they don’t cancel each other out because lower growth doesn’t reduce inflation in fact it may actually
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      accelerate inflation uh because it increases budget deficits and uh puts
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      downward pressure on the dollar and is actually inflationary but he’s trying to say well they cancel each other out so
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      we don’t have to change our policy you know what that is that’s stagflation it’s the one thing that they H they
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      didn’t have it’s the one thing they have no contingency plan for that’s the reality anyway I’m going to talk more
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      about this press conference the Q&A on the other side of the commercial break so stick around we’re coming right back
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      gold has gone up 50% and Silver’s gone down I mean you you can’t really find
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      uh you know a a a another time period where where that happened right this is
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      kind of an unprecedented uh weakness in silver in relation to gold and you know again the
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      premiums were blowing out the phones were ringing off the hook uh but when gold got to 2000 for the third time late
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      last year nobody wanted to buy it you know and that’s very interesting because
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      the first two times you know two when it when it went up to 2000 in um almost
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      2000 in 2011 then it pulled back uh to 1,50 but remember that bull market
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      Started From Below 300 so gold went from below 300 to 1900 without a you know any
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      kind of meaningful Decline and then everybody you know rushed in near 2,000 and then you know it almost got cut in
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      half to 1,50 so people got burned they bought gold near 2,000 right they lost
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      money then it rallied up to 2,000 again during covid and went above 2,000 and
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      everyone thought okay this is it last time it couldn’t get above 2,000 now it’s above this is the breakout a lot of
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      money came in and then the market sold off but not as much right gold held
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      1600 um and uh and now and then it Rose back but by the by the third time it got
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      to 2000 the public had been burned twice buying $2,000 gold and what guys were
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      telling me at shift gold was people didn’t want to buy gold to 2000 they wanted to wait for another pullback and
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      I kept saying you know what I don’t think we’re going to get a pullback this time we’ve had the pullbacks we’ve built
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      an enormous base and I kept saying on the podcast for several months 2000 is
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      the floor it’s no longer the ceiling on gold it’s the floor I kept saying buy it
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      you know 2100 2200 this is cheap people were reluctant to buy waiting for a
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      pullback and here we are at 3,000 50% higher no pullback so I don’t want
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      people to make the mistake of saying I don’t want to buy gold at 3,000 I want to wait for a pullback you’re probably
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      not going to get a pullback large enough to make it worthwhile I mean you could go go back down to 2900 of course but
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      uh so if you look it up uh you know by the way I noticed I’m not sure we were up a little bit today
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      but as of yesterday my dividend payer fund was up over 19% year-to date uh you
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      stock picking in uh in that in that fund but anyway let me go over uh some of the
      26:31
      stuff that happened in today’s uh Q&A with pal I mean first of all there
      Analysis of Tariffs and Inflation
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      was a lot of discussion of tariffs and you know a lot of people you
      26:45
      know wanted to get pal the blame uh you know their higher inflation forecast on the tariffs obviously right
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      because they want to be able to blame it on Trump and and and his answers you know pretty much to me was yes because his
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      initial answer to the direct question was some of it a good part of it so if
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      you say some of the higher inflation forecast a good part of it is because of tariffs well you’re blaming it on the
      27:12
      tariffs but then every time he talked about inflation being higher he always
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      interjected the tariffs uh so you can see that this is going to be the scapegoat right the FED is not going to
      27:24
      have to accept responsibility for the inflation it’s going to blame it on the
      27:29
      tariffs but again you know if it is the tariffs that caused inflation then why didn’t the FED know that the tariffs
      27:35
      were going to cause inflation and why did they keep cutting rates why didn’t they hike rates so it’s still the fed’s
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      fault either way uh but the real uh problem is all the money the FED created
      27:46
      all the credit that they created uh it’s not the tariffs I mean the tariffs are taxes they’re taxes that Americans are
      27:53
      going to pay when they buy stuff so they’re consumption taxes and and they’re better than the deficit so I’d
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      rather have a tax on consumption than more debt but what these higher consumption taxes will do is accelerate
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      the recession because the recession has been postponed or hidden by all the
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      excess consumption caused by the deficit spending well if the deficits are reduced because we tax Americans for
      28:22
      spending and so they spend less we have a smaller deficit that’s good in the long run but in the short run when when
      28:28
      you’re talking about having a bubble economy you’re letting some air out of that bubble and that means we have an
      28:34
      even deeper uh recession now pal talked about the data he said you know the
      28:41
      economy overall he said we have a strong economy so he’s still clinging to the fiction that the economy is
      28:48
      strong and pal claims that all the hard data says the economy is strong now I
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      don’t know what hard data he’s really relying on because I see a lot of weak n in the hard data but pal uh admitted
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      that in the the Soft Data in the surveys that there seems to be a lot of concern
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      and a lot of worry about the future so he acknowledged that um and um he said
      29:17
      there’s a lot of uncertainty right he used the word uncertainty probably more than any other word and again I think
      29:24
      this is also trying to uh blame the Trump administration because that where a lot of the uncertainty is coming from
      29:30
      it’s policy uncertainty in particular related to the tariffs so he’s kind of
      29:35
      blaming a lot of the the concern that is evidenced in these surveys on the
      29:42
      tariffs right and that and that’s what’s going on uh but he get he said his base case is that any impact on inflation
      29:50
      will be transitory uh and that you know I if there if it’ll go away on its own it’s
      29:57
      like an inflationary impulse or something he said that would go away on on his own but he really dismissed these
      30:04
      surveys kind of out of hand he acknowledg them but I think one of the most ridiculous things is he was asked
      30:10
      about inflation expectations you know are you concerned about you know Rising inflation expectations and he said no he
      30:18
      said that inflation expectations aren’t going up now he acknowledged that they’re going up for the short run he
      30:25
      said you know people are concerned about one year inflation going up but he said
      30:31
      we’re we don’t factor that in see all of a sudden now the FED is qualified inflation expectations because
      Fed’s Shift in Inflation Expectations
      30:38
      it’s it’s never really uh you know done this before it’s always said we want to make sure that inflation expectations
      30:45
      remain well anchored and now he’s saying well we want to make sure that long-term inflation expectations are well anchored
      30:52
      we don’t really care about short-term expectations because you know they’re you know they’re too volatile or
      30:58
      something or they may not really count so now he’s trying to say that because you know people are looking for 5%
      31:04
      inflation over the next year well we’re not g to we’re going to look past that we don’t really care about that just so
      31:09
      long as long-term inflation expectations remain anchored and that’s what he said he said we’ve seen no indication
      Powell’s Dismissal of Five-Year Inflation Concerns
      31:17
      anywhere that inflation five years out that people expect that to be a lot
      31:22
      higher which is an outright lie and nobody pointed it out to him I mean two or three people people ask them about it
      31:29
      as if they they realize it but I I talked about it on my last podcast that uh five-year inflation
      31:37
      expectations jumped to 3.9% that’s the highest in over 30 years
      31:43
      I think like 32 years so how can pal ignore that that was a big jump and this
      31:49
      is over five years consumers believe that inflation is going to average almost 4% a year for the next 5 years
      31:58
      and pal completely dismissed that out of hand that oh we don’t really care or maybe we notice these higher
      32:04
      expectations but we don’t believe them I don’t know what he was trying to say because he actually said that fiveyear
      32:10
      expectations have not moved that they’ve stayed at 2% when they’re they’re practically double uh
      32:18
      2% you know one of the um more ridiculous comments that he made was you
      Consumer Sentiment and Price Levels
      32:24
      know somebody said you know consumers are really unhappy you know you’re telling us that the economy is really
      32:29
      good and that inflation is coming down and you know they’re still upset about how expensive things are right and so
      32:36
      they they’re not buying this and what pal said he said well you
      32:43
      know I understand they’re upset about the price level yes prices went up a lot in the past and what they’re really
      32:50
      worried about is the past inflation but we’ve made a lot of progress inflation has come all the way down and so they’re
      32:58
      not really worried about current inflation right it’s just the the the past inflation as if the FED had nothing
      33:05
      to do with that and that so there’s no reason to worry now because the FED has already reduced inflation uh but yes you
      33:12
      know it’s he recognizes that the price level is still very high and that’s
      33:18
      painful but like there’s nothing he can do about that because he’s already brought future inflation under control
      33:24
      so the consumer just doesn’t realize uh how good it is because they’re fixated
      33:29
      on these high prices and they don’t realize that the FED has you know solved the inflation problem which it has not
      33:35
      done because first of all not only is the Fed responsible for the current elevated price level that pal agrees
      33:43
      consumers have a right to be pissed off about but because remember even before this happened pal said that the fed’s
      Fed’s Inflation Averaging Policy
      33:50
      policy was inflation averaging he said that we need to make up for the fact that inflation was below 2% for so many
      33:57
      years we need to let it run above 2% so pal wanted the price level to move up
      34:02
      more than 2% because he felt like you know consumers got ripped off in
      34:08
      previous years because they didn’t get enough inflation and so he wanted to make sure that they made up for that low
      34:13
      inflation with some higher inflation but pal still says that the fed’s goal is
      34:20
      not to take these high prices and bring them down Pal’s official goal is to make
      34:27
      sure that these elevated prices that nobody likes everybody’s upset about and pal
      34:34
      agrees that people have a right to be acet about how high prices are his goal
      34:41
      is to make sure that those high prices not only don’t come down the official
      34:46
      goal of the FED is to make sure that already high prices that people are complaining about go up every year by at
      34:54
      least 2% and of course especially you know grocery prices because you know grocery
      35:00
      prices go up more than that as long as you can offset it with some other BS that’s part of the CP right and of
      35:07
      course they don’t even want to look at uh uh you know the headline they want to
      35:13
      focus on the core which doesn’t even count food and energy so really as far as Pal’s concerned I don’t care how
      35:20
      expensive food is because we don’t even look at that we only want 2% inflation when you don’t count
      35:25
      food uh the the problem is the Fed should have a policy of reducing prices
      35:31
      see if the fed’s goal is 2% inflation per year right and all of a sudden you
      35:36
      get 20 or 30% inflation over a few years don’t you want to have some deflation
      35:42
      can’t you have prices go down because it would still have an average remember pal
      35:48
      said that when inflation was running below 2% for a number of years we had to
      35:53
      average it up well why can’t we average down some of this really high inflation
      35:59
      why can’t prices fall for a few years so that we can produce an average of a 2%
      36:05
      gain right what’s wrong with that because it was all Bs from the beginning pal needs to create inflation that’s how
      36:12
      they keep this whole bubble economy going is by creating inflation and you’re not providing relief for
      36:18
      consumers if you’re telling them that the prices that they can’t afford are going to keep going up now maybe some
      36:25
      people if they can get a raise if they can if their wages can rise faster than
      36:30
      these increases they can catch up but they’re still not catching a break they’re still being permanently punished
      36:37
      by higher prices they’re paying these higher prices every single year it’s not
      36:42
      that okay prices went up you know 20% and you pay it for one year the
      36:47
      inflation that the FED deliberately created is plaguing Americans every year
      36:54
      for the rest of their lives there is no reprieve because the fed will never allow past price increases to be even
      37:02
      partially reversed right what what an asinine policy right no prices can never
      37:07
      go down no matter how much they go up in the past we can never let them go down they always have to keep going up the
      37:14
      only thing the FED wants to do is slow down the rate of increase until all of a
      37:19
      sudden it spikes up again I mean what if the FED actually succeeded in keeping
      37:25
      inflation at 2% a year for few years and then all of a sudden it shot up to 10 or 20% in one year then okay all right well
      37:33
      all right we’ll bring it down to 2% and and then they succeed and you you know you have several years of 2% but every
      37:40
      you know so often you have a 10 or 20% Spike you don’t have 2% inflation the whole thing is BS uh you know H and the
      37:49
      reporters in this room I guess are buying it you know based on the questions that they ask Wall Street buys
      37:55
      it they let these Central bankers get away with all of this uh all this nonsense but you know pal admitted you
      38:01
      know that the consumers you know don’t agree that the economy is as good as he
      38:07
      claims it’s not just the consumers it’s the voters that’s why Trump is President
      38:12
      because voters didn’t agree with the FED either right now um let’s see yeah so
      38:19
      another really ridiculous uh point that that that pal tried to make this was in response to uh
      38:27
      a question somebody asked them about the composition of jobs because a lot of
      Government Jobs vs. Private Sector Jobs
      38:35
      jobs are government jobs or government related jobs in education or in health
      38:41
      care uh and so we’ve had all these public sector jobs and we’ve you know at
      38:47
      the expense of a private sector job so he asked pal are you worried about this composition that too many of the jobs
      38:53
      that we’ve created are these government jobs and pal basically said no you know
      39:00
      pal said that you know they the FED doesn’t distinguish what kind of job it is right
      39:08
      I mean jobs are jobs he says that we don’t care he said from our standpoint
      39:13
      employment is employment it doesn’t matter where the job is coming from and it doesn’t matter what the person is
      39:19
      doing right as far as the FED is concerned all jobs are created equal
      39:25
      which is a bunch of nonsense I mean does he really believe that is he really that ignorant about basic economics of course
      39:33
      all jobs are not equal a productive private sector job is worth a lot more
      39:39
      to the economy than a nonproductive government job I mean as far as pal is
      39:45
      concerned if the government hires one person to dig a ditch and another person
      39:51
      to fill the ditch back up those are two jobs as far as he’s concerned those are jobs he doesn’t
      39:57
      differentiate between those two jobs that produce absolutely nothing of value for anyone and two people getting actual
      40:05
      jobs right at a business making stuff right he he thinks that there there’s no difference between those jobs there is a
      40:11
      huge difference especially if you’re trying to limit inflation productive
      40:19
      employment uh puts downward pressure on prices right because if people are producing more Goods you have more Goods
      40:26
      in the economy you have greater Supply and that could keep prices down but if two people are working and producing
      40:33
      nothing and getting checks from the government and the government is running up bigger deficits to give people that
      40:39
      produce nothing money to spend to buy stuffs that they didn’t produce you are putting upward pressure on prices so if
      40:47
      the fed’s goal is to have price stability then they better consider the
      40:53
      nature of the jobs because nonproductive jobs add to the inflationary pressures
      40:59
      in the economy does pal not understand that is he that ignorant about inflation I mean that’s supposedly what he’s so
      41:06
      smart about he’s supposed to be an expert right the smartest guy in the country on inflation that’s why he’s the
      41:13
      chair of the Federal Reserve yet he doesn’t even understand that the impact that productivity has on prices or the
      41:20
      in Impact that deficits have now I have a feeling he’s got to know I mean this is such basic stuff but he’s afraid to
      41:26
      say yeah those government jobs you know were not good you know because he’s talking about how great the job market
      41:32
      is so he doesn’t want to say anything to diminish uh you know the fact that so
      41:37
      many of these so-called jobs were nonproductive jobs one of the reasons that we have so much debt uh is because
      41:45
      of government jobs and you know by the way I I I recently looked into this you know we got a 36 trillion national debt
      US National Debt and Borrowing Challenges
      41:52
      right more 36 trillion it’s probably over 37 right now because the debt ceiling is still suspended so they’re
      41:59
      not officially adding the debt but it’s unofficially there so who the hell knows uh where the national debt is I’m sure
      42:06
      it’s way above 37 trillion but it’s still showing on the national debt clock at like 36 you know in
      42:13
      change but 26 trillion of the 36 trillion 26
      42:20
      trillion matures over the next four years think about that 26 trillion
      42:27
      now over those four years the government’s going to run at least another 10 trillion in debt two and a
      42:33
      half trillion a year minimum budget deficits so that means the US government over the next four years has to borrow $
      42:40
      36 trillion 36 trillion now some well they don’t have to borrow it because you know
      42:47
      they just roll over 26 trillion that’s borrowing it again because what happens
      42:52
      is somebody owns a treasury that matures which means they get their money back
      42:58
      the government owes the money the owner of that bill has to
      43:04
      decide you know what I don’t want my money back I’ll just loan it to you again just you know I I’ll sign up for
      43:10
      another year another two years another three whatever right but that’s selling you have to get the lender to make a
      43:17
      decision to loan you the money that they don’t want their money back and if that
      43:23
      lender doesn’t want to reloan the money he wants his money back the government
      43:29
      has to find a new lender to loan it the money right because the government can’t pay anybody back unless somebody else
      43:36
      loans them the money right it’s running a gigantic Ponzi scheme I don’t think
      43:41
      the government is going to be able to borrow $ 36 trillion in the next 10
      43:47
      years not at four and a half percent interest rates not a chance so one of two things has to happen interest rates
      43:54
      have to go way up so so that lenders will want to loan the money to the US
      44:01
      government but the problem is we can’t afford to pay much higher interest rates
      44:06
      than the ones we got right now so if rates aren’t going to go up and no one
      44:12
      buys our treasuries who’s going to buy them the FED right massive quantitative
      44:17
      easing there’s no other way to avoid avoid default because we can’t pay a
      44:22
      market rate of interest so we have to have massive inflation nobody asked pal
      44:28
      about that at the press conference are you worried about the ability of the government to roll over so much debt
      44:35
      over the next four years or Finance this debt and you know are you willing to buy
      44:41
      whatever the market won’t buy are you going to artificially cap interest rates to prevent them from skyrocketing I mean
      44:48
      none of these things come up but with the dollar falling the way it is with gold going up I mean who the hell is
      44:55
      going to want to loan money to the US government at 4% they should just take that money and buy gold that’s what
      45:01
      they’re going to do I mean you’re going to wa you’re going to make a lot more than 4% buying gold looking at the way
      45:07
      it’s going up right or they’re going to buy Bonds in in uh in Europe you know
      45:13
      interest rates in Europe are going up they’ll buy buns right if Japanese rates
      45:18
      keep going up they’ll buy jgbs right there there’s a lot of other Sovereign credit that the us is going to be
      45:25
      competing with look what’s happening to the stock Market it shows you the US Stock Market is going down now but where
      45:31
      is the money that’s going out of US Stocks going not into US bonds it’s going into European stocks it’s going
      45:38
      into Asian stocks it’s going into gold and those Trends are going to accelerate
      45:43
      and the only way to get foreigners into US dollar bonds is going to be to bribe
      45:48
      them with a much much higher rate of interest but of course we can’t do that and I don’t even know that they’d fall
      45:54
      for that because if rates went up that high we have a massive recession and the FED would go right back to QE and
      46:00
      printing a bunch of money and so there’s really no way out of this uh but massive inflation which is ridiculous again to
      46:07
      see you know pal uh you know just so complacent about inflation is going to come back down uh to 2% uh there’s no
      46:15
      chance uh that that’s going to happen you know somebody asked him about the doge divid is uh there was a question
      46:23
      like hey you know the savings that are coming out of Doge which of of course as I warned a lot of that is just you know
      46:30
      hype you know and the judges of course are already saying that the people that Doge fired have to get their jobs back
      46:37
      and a lot of the spending cuts don’t count and of course Congress voted to fund a lot of the you know the Fraud and
      46:43
      Abuse that Doge was supposedly cutting uh so government is getting bigger and
      46:48
      bigger and bigger but somebody asked him about um uh the Doge
      46:54
      dividend which is would and what the do Dividends are is to the extent that Doge
      47:00
      saves some money that we mail out the Savings in the form of a check like a rebate to the
      47:07
      taxpayers and um he didn’t comment because he was asked you know what do you think about
      47:12
      that you know oh I I won’t comment on on on on government policy on fiscal policy
      47:18
      which again is not only just a copout it is it is wrong that is why pal is there
      47:25
      and especially during his uh Humphrey Hawkins he makes the same BS excuse when
      47:32
      he actually goes to Congress and he sits before the house and the Senate and they
      47:39
      ask him hey we’re considering this policy what do you think what do you
      47:44
      think the impact of this policy will be on inflation right because he’s supposed to be the the genius on inflation right
      47:51
      the smartest man in the room so we’re all in a room and you’ve got these you know numskulls in Congress who you know
      47:58
      weren’t elected because they’re the smartest right apparently we appoint pal because he’s really really smart but we
      48:04
      vote for whoever gets the mo you know has the slickest ad campaign right so the people who are in Congress you know
      48:12
      they don’t even have to have an economics background right they don’t have to be you know know anything about basic economics you know they just get
      48:19
      elected right I mean AOC was a bartender right she goes to Congress what the hell
      48:24
      does AOC know about economics right she doesn’t know anything right but apparently she’s there and there’s a
      48:30
      there’s a bill that they’re considering and she wants to ask the chairman of the FED right the smartest of the smart
      48:37
      right who’s supposed to be you know this real all- knowing guy hey here’s a bill that I’m thinking about voting I want to
      48:44
      know what you’re what you think about it I’d like to know if you think if we pass this bill is it inflationary you know is
      48:51
      it a good idea right he’s there he’s at Congress right to share his wisdom and
      48:57
      his knowledge with with with with with all these people but instead of doing that he says nope I’m going to keep my
      49:04
      mouth shut right so even if I think you’re gonna do something really really
      49:10
      dumb I’m not gonna tell you I’m not gonna give you any warning I’m just gonna let you do it I mean what the hell
      49:17
      is that I mean what is the point of having a independent Federal Reserve if
      Critique of Fed’s Independence and Policy
      49:24
      he can’t criticize bad polic policy and if he can’t give some advice to people
      49:30
      who know a lot less than he’s supposed to know if they’re doing something really dumb right so what he should have
      49:36
      said is you know those Doge dividend checks that’s a dumb idea what is the
      49:42
      point of saving all this money to reduce the deficit and then blowing the savings by rebating the taxpayers you you’ve
      49:49
      just you know defeated the whole purpose you were supposed to be reducing the deficits the deficits are too big and he
      49:55
      should also say that you do that it’s inflationary because you would have reduced the deficits but instead you
      50:01
      sent out money to people to go buy stuff and bid up prices and of course that’s not the only mistake I mean just about
      50:07
      everything Congress is does is a mistake and I I it’s a disservice to the country
      50:15
      for pal not to uh opine on on fiscal
      50:20
      policy because that does not violate the independence of the fed and again the
      50:27
      FED is supposed to be independent of Congress and the White House the White
      50:32
      House and Congress are not supposed to go be independent of the FED see it’s not a two-way street it is a one-way
      50:39
      Street the idea of an independent Central Bank is so the Central Bank does
      50:44
      not come under political pressure to do stuff that’s expedient because the
      50:49
      politicians always want you know to make things look good for the next election
      50:56
      even if what the FED has to do to make things look good for the next election
      51:01
      hurts the country in the long run so the idea is the central Banker is above
      51:07
      politics so the central Banker is not going to do something just to help
      51:12
      reelect politicians just to make the economy better in the short run he’s
      51:17
      supposed to or she is supposed to care about the long-term health of the country even if his policy imposes
      51:25
      short-term pain if it’s going to result in long-term gain then we need an
      51:32
      independent fed that’s willing to administer the bad tasting medicine it’s
      51:37
      the Congress and the White House that don’t want any part of that bad tasting medicine because they might not get
      51:43
      reelected so the idea is so that the FED is independent from political pressure
      51:50
      to to do things that are good politics but maybe bad economics but we don’t need indep it’s the other way there is
      51:58
      nothing wrong with the FED criticizing Congress or criticizing the president in
      52:04
      fact there’s everything right about that that’s what we want the FED to do we
      52:09
      want the FED to criticize Congress and the White House and the biggest irony of it all is I just heard in a recent
      52:17
      interview with um with drone pal he was asked which fed chairman prior fed
      52:24
      chairman do you admire the most and he said Paul vulker well Paul vulker did
      52:31
      exactly that he was a huge critic of government he criticized government
      52:37
      spending he said you got to cut spending you know you know he was he was pounding
      52:43
      the table for spending cuts smaller reducing the size of the deficit and he
      52:48
      kind of forced you know more responsibility by jacking rates up to 20% right so you know he was telling
      52:55
      them what they need to do and he was raising rates uh to force them to do what they needed to do uh there has been
      53:02
      no change in you know fed Independence there’s been no rules that have been
      53:08
      passed since vulker left office that say that fed chairman can’t speak critically
      53:15
      of Congress or the president they absolutely can and they they they must
      53:21
      that is their Duty uh to to to say the truth because the politicians won’t do
      53:26
      it the politicians just want to get reelected the the FED chairman is supposed to be above politics and it
      53:33
      it’s it’s particularly annoying when he talks about oh you know the S the sanctity of the the independence of the
      53:39
      FED we have to preserve that Independence the reason that we preserve it is so you could be critical of bad
      53:47
      policy if you’re going to shut up and bite your tongue and refuse to criticize
      53:52
      policy that you know is bad then what is the purpose of this so called Independence and again I think the fact
      53:59
      that they’re cutting rates and that they’re saying they’re going to cut rates even as inflation is going up is a
      54:08
      basic an admission that it’s all political the only reason they’re not hiking rides now is the politics because
      54:16
      it’s going to push the economy deeper into recession it’s going to be a big uh a problem for the government and all the
      54:22
      other people that are in debt but why does everybody have so much debt cost of the fed the FED kept interest rates so
      54:29
      low for so long that everybody loaded up on so much debt that now they can’t raise rates high enough to put the
      54:35
      inflation that they deliberately uh released back in the bottle so we’re
      54:41
      stuck we’re lying in the bed that the FED made anyway that’s it for today’s H
      Investment Advice and Market Trends
      54:47
      podcast again don’t forget you know don’t make the mistake of thinking that 3,000 is the top of gold a lot of people
      54:55
      didn’t buy gold at 2,000 000 and now they still haven’t bought it and now it’s at 3,000 $3,000 is cheaper than
      55:01
      4,000 and if you don’t buy it at 3,000 you may end up buying it at 4,000 if you don’t buy 4,000 maybe 5,000 so you might
      55:09
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      55:23
      mining stocks they finally took out the highs by by the way uh yesterday they took out the the uh April 2020 highs
      55:31
      just barely just barely uh but gold stocks are up like 26 27% on the year uh
      55:38
      you know with the NASDAQ down uh Russell 2000 down nastic was down about 9%
      55:43
      before today I think it was up you know uh so now it’s only down maybe about 8% uh but this is a huge Divergence but
      55:50
      these stocks are still ridiculously cheap in fact gold stocks went down today uh and uh you know although that
      55:58
      they were up by the end of the day but early this morning you know gold was down like six seven bucks and gold
      56:04
      stocks were down a percent which ridiculous I mean so gold went from 235 to 2000 I mean
      56:11
      335 to 328 and people dump gold stocks who cares I mean there’s Gold’s still
      56:18
      above 3,000 I mean gold stocks would be cheap if gold was at 2,000 but it’s not going to 2,000 you know as long as gold
      56:25
      is within a few hundred of 3,000 even below the earnings are
      56:30
      going to blow away estimates so the people should not even care this is noise gold stocks should be going up
      56:37
      every day regardless of what the price of gold does because it can’t go down enough to make these stocks less
      56:43
      valuable than they are right now they have to go up so much just to catch up to where they are people should
      56:50
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      56:55
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